▲ 1379 ▼ Happy Labour Day to people who are not landlords. (lemmy.world) submitted 2 years ago by BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml 426 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] dyerat@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) a government can do the same permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) A government could do any utility providing activity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago They sure could. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the government would be the landlord permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the democracy the government can be influenced, working for people, and providing utilities and not trying to profit on every interaction. US democracy is very much broken so you can't see how it would work, but that's the idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I wasn't even thinking of the US. Why is that the default for so many people? There's load of different systems and governments. I'm just saying making the government the landlord wouldn't necessarily be any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm. I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) A government could do any utility providing activity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 point 2 years ago They sure could. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) So the government would be the landlord permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the democracy the government can be influenced, working for people, and providing utilities and not trying to profit on every interaction. US democracy is very much broken so you can't see how it would work, but that's the idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I wasn't even thinking of the US. Why is that the default for so many people? There's load of different systems and governments. I'm just saying making the government the landlord wouldn't necessarily be any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm. I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) In the democracy the government can be influenced, working for people, and providing utilities and not trying to profit on every interaction. US democracy is very much broken so you can't see how it would work, but that's the idea. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I wasn't even thinking of the US. Why is that the default for so many people? There's load of different systems and governments. I'm just saying making the government the landlord wouldn't necessarily be any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm. I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) I wasn't even thinking of the US. Why is that the default for so many people? There's load of different systems and governments. I'm just saying making the government the landlord wouldn't necessarily be any better. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm. I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm. I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs. But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Here renting is very much controlled on both sides. And it will have to involve a government. I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of permalink fedilink source parent
