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[–] 3 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

There is a difference between a corporation manipulating their own service and a government controlling the entire internet for the nation.

No one is forcing you to use US corporate social media. Everyone needs internet access.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    There is a difference between a corporation manipulating their own service and a government controlling the entire internet for the nation.

    There really isn't a fundamental difference here. US capitalists run the country, control its media, and stand above it's political system. It's military/defense apparatus, and police function as their hired goons.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    US corporations are the US government. They outright own it. US media is state media with extra steps.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You don’t need to use social media to access the internet.

    How many times must I write the difference between corporate controlled platforms and governmentally controlled internet?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    How many times must I write the difference between corporate controlled platforms and governmentally controlled internet?

    Oh, the burden you must bear dealing with us know nothings.

    The same corporations that own the media own the government. There is no difference between the two in the United States. This "democracy" is a sham. This is an oligarchy. How many times do you need to be told this before you get it?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    dude, the CIA controls everything. Probably since at least the 60's. Use your brain. Why do you think the most far right and "far left" media agree on the SAME THINGS when it comes to US foreign policy? US media is JUST as free as Chinese media, which is not at all. Read about the twitter leaks. Feds just emailed them to take shit down and they did it.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah? Do a quick search on how to overthrow the government. Can’t do that in China.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They already overthrew their government and embraced socialism. You act like they want to overthrow their current government. They live decent lives. Better than ours. Our media lies to you about them. They are largely happy. I know it's impossible to imagine that, what with living in this nightmare, but it's possible when your government treats you as more than consumables to be exploited for profits.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago*

    I have been protesting the Sinicization of Tibet since the 1980s. You’re not convincing me that the actions they’ve taken since the 1950s is any different that Israel’s intended eradication of the Palestinians.

    I’m also an educated consumer. Every respected nation that has investigated the incarceration, monitoring, beating, forced sterilization, and forced labor of the Uyghurs has concluded to be true.

    You’re telling me I should believe the offending nation and their allies over their critics, while simultaneously telling me the opposite about the West. How do you not see the hypocrisy?

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The Chinese people overwhelmingly approve of their government, so they have no reason to overthrow it.

    Meanwhile the US congress government have gotten <20% approval ratings for years. You should probably take some lessons from the PRC on how they overthrew an oppressive government and internal reactionaries, because they have more experience at it than most countries.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't trust statistics from relating to political issues that could get one punished in a country, people won't want to voice their true opinion in fear of punishment

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago*

    Oh, I’m in no way defending the US or suggesting that it’s right and China’s wrong, but that was an example. The point is the limited ability to access information, not the need to obtain information specifically to overthrow the government.

    I’m saying they’re not free to use the internet like other nations, and that it’s an oppressive and authoritarian way to gatekeep information. The US absolutely manipulates media, but at least you maintain access to the counterpoint. Neither is right, but this comment section is so quick to deflect criticism of China back to the West that they truly don’t see how both nations could be two different flavors of suck.

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