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The US is Fanning the Flames of War with China (truthout.org)
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[–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not only has US never endorsed their claims outside Taiwan, they still dont formally endorse their claims to Taiwan itself. So no. They dont support RoC's constitution and as far as im aware have never commented on it.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not only has US never endorsed their claims outside Taiwan

    You keep pulling shit from your ass. The US has formerly recognized the ROC and all its claims, then put the PRC into UN instead in the cold war to get them on their side. And recognized the One-China Policy.

    Now, if the US is again violating the One-China Policy, that means they deal with ROC as a state again. Here you start to pull out without sources or proof an assumption that there is an imaginary state called Taiwan, with a constitution with claims only about the island itself, and that the US is exactly protecting this state, which I said does not exist in that form.

    My whole point is the absence of that nuance, and that this state the US de facto recognized has claims worse that any other country in Asia.

    They dont support RoC’s constitution

    I mean yes now they don't recognize it officially, but they and the government on Taiwan do not make any considerations regarding these claims, they just still have them? That is literally my whole point.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The US has formerly recognized the ROC and all its claims

    Ill be here waiting on citation

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago

    Dude, you like have never heard of the Chinese civil war? And on which side the US was? The US supported the Guomindang of ROC because they should have been according to them the successor of mainland China. And long after they escaped to Taiwan, the US was putting sactions, economic blockades and manipulations on the PRC because according to the US they were just terrorists residing on the mainland, and in the beginning they wanted to re-establish the ROCs rule on the mainland.

    You now demand from me to post some specific stuff that is never explicitly stated. You also won't find any document from Western countries in Europe recognizing that the Donbass is a region of Ukraine, what matters is when they recognize it's constution and accept that state on international levels.

    Its time for you to put up some of that bold claims. I actually am interested, if you have any constitution or proposal of that Taiwan nation you keep talking, you can send it to me, I would really like to know what they have in mind if there is something like this.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You couldn’t be more wrong. The ROC wouldn’t exist had the US not intervened in the civil war by stationing the US navy between Taiwan and the mainland. The US recognized the territorial claims of the ROC for around 30 years. The US even pushed the ROC to recognize Mongolian independence in the 60s.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    And whats the part where US endorsed RoCs constitution? Youve given me an example of them protecting just the island territory, and an example of them disagreeing with their constitution.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Let me get this straight. You think the US intervened in the Chinese civil war because they thought the ROC had a rightful claim to Taiwan and nothing else? Amazing lol

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, youve shown nothing otherwise, and one thing that counters the claim. Or was US stationed in mongolia protecting Taiwans claims to it?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    It’s just funny that you believe that. Remember the KMT wasn’t from Taiwan. When fleeing the mainland, they invaded Taiwan and oppressed and murdered the indigenous people of the island. Yet you’re here stating that the US only defended the KMT’s right to Taiwan as if that was a sensible position to take at the time.

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