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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 237 points 2 years ago (8 children) Why the fuck is anyone still using Twitter permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 86 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or even talking about shit like this? Musk is living rent free in a lot of people's heads. The way to make him irrelevant is to treat him as such. Making a fuss about everything he says, gives him undue importance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago (2 children) To be fair, he's commanding a ton of influence among policy makers, so it's pretty critical to not completely ignore the bullshit he's up to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 35 points 2 years ago It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I'm as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he's in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn't solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can't solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary. It's like when you watch Jon Oliver. It's a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Naia_Elwyn@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children) Momentum. The average person is really hard to move to a new platform. I saw this when Skype was the big thing for internet communication the Microsoft slowly made it worse and worse before it was barely a shadow of its former self. Alternatives existed, many that were much better, but they were slightly harder to use or came along way after people were already set on Skype. It wasn't until discord that the internet shifted, but even discord has its problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And FOMO. FOMO is super powerful. FOMO kept me on Reddit for way too long. permalink fedilink source parent [–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What momentum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago like it or not goverment official accounts, and official news accounts are things some people care about and there are few platforms that have as many as Twitter or Facebook /meta. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Good write up, except Skype is a bad example, because it’s better than any alternative, at least when it comes to screen sharing, audio quality, and file sharing. (Although I’d love to be wrong about this.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kipo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) United States law enforcement agencies have the ability to eavesdrop on Skype conversations and to have access to Skype users' geographic locations. In many cases, a simple request for information is sufficient, with no court approval needed. This ability was deliberately added by Microsoft for law enforcement agencies around the world after they purchased Skype in 2011. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security Although I think Microsoft implemented end-to-end encryption for skype for single conversations at a time in 2018. Still, for seven years, microsoft was giving law enforcement every conversation they wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago It was about the time they pushed the inclusion of banner ads in the application. Nobody left skype until advertisements were plastered all over it, even some with sound. Most of my gaming friends were early haters, as we'd been using Xfire and it served our primary purpose just fine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lobut@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Politics, sports, musicians, celebrities, news ... Those are slow to move off if they are at all. It's a shame. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) mostly porn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Manalith@midwest.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be everyone living in the states that block Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] adoxographer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s not the states blocking ph, but ph blocking the states. permalink fedilink source parent [–] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Many answered you already but i'm gonna provide you with another piece of the puzzle. Why the fuck there always multiple threads about elon musk on lemmy frontpage? Propaganda and marketing runs deep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I set up a filter to block any post title with "Elon Musk" but stuff like this will still get through though. Lemmy is obsessed with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Master@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Elon musk butt stuff... you are missing out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago This better not awaken anything in me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scallops@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago The thing about a cult is that it doesn’t need you in particular. It needs people. Ideally, idiots. So it doesn’t matter that a lot of people are leaving/will leave Twitter. The idiots will remain, and the platform will serve its purpose. permalink fedilink source parent [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) few other platforms have ad much diversity in their hatred and negativity, community notes are funny, watching things slowly get worse is also interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That misspelling kinda fits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world -3 points 2 years ago Because I'm not interested in trading one echo chamber for another. Also, sports and music. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 86 points 2 years ago (2 children) Or even talking about shit like this? Musk is living rent free in a lot of people's heads. The way to make him irrelevant is to treat him as such. Making a fuss about everything he says, gives him undue importance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago (2 children) To be fair, he's commanding a ton of influence among policy makers, so it's pretty critical to not completely ignore the bullshit he's up to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 35 points 2 years ago It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I'm as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he's in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn't solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can't solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary. It's like when you watch Jon Oliver. It's a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on. permalink fedilink source parent [+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 87 points 2 years ago (2 children) To be fair, he's commanding a ton of influence among policy makers, so it's pretty critical to not completely ignore the bullshit he's up to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 35 points 2 years ago It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I'm as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he's in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn't solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can't solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary. It's like when you watch Jon Oliver. It's a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] joelfromaus@aussie.zone 35 points 2 years ago It’s one of those things where, while I’m sick of hearing about his bullshit, I need to know if he does something that directly affects me. E.g. if he started doing a similar thing in my country as the stuff he’s trying with Britain at the moment then I’d write to a couple of representatives to let them know they’ll lose mine and many other votes if they side with the dopey billionaire muppet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child) Also because people like Musk are further empowered when no one is looking. I'm as tired of hearing about him as anyone but will keep reading until he's in prison, dead, or at least not the de facto president of the united states. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn't solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can't solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary. It's like when you watch Jon Oliver. It's a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah but are you not considering the thousands of other ideologues that work in the shadows everyday? Putting one on blast doesn't solve anything. People have yet to grasp that the public forum can't solve a multitude of problems all at once. If you put something in the public forum you should expect nothing to happen unless there is a system already in place to deal with it. What we should spend time talking about is solutions that can cascade into other solutions. Systems that can make other systems. We need to categorize our problems and put them in a queue to be reconciled. What we have now is people just wildly jumping from one problem to the next as if identifying that problem was the most important thing and solving it is secondary. It's like when you watch Jon Oliver. It's a good show but at the end of the episode all I have is another insurmountable problem I now recognize and I file that away with every other insurmountable problem Jon has shed light on. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Naia_Elwyn@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children) Momentum. The average person is really hard to move to a new platform. I saw this when Skype was the big thing for internet communication the Microsoft slowly made it worse and worse before it was barely a shadow of its former self. Alternatives existed, many that were much better, but they were slightly harder to use or came along way after people were already set on Skype. It wasn't until discord that the internet shifted, but even discord has its problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And FOMO. FOMO is super powerful. FOMO kept me on Reddit for way too long. permalink fedilink source parent [–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What momentum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago like it or not goverment official accounts, and official news accounts are things some people care about and there are few platforms that have as many as Twitter or Facebook /meta. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Good write up, except Skype is a bad example, because it’s better than any alternative, at least when it comes to screen sharing, audio quality, and file sharing. (Although I’d love to be wrong about this.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kipo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) United States law enforcement agencies have the ability to eavesdrop on Skype conversations and to have access to Skype users' geographic locations. In many cases, a simple request for information is sufficient, with no court approval needed. This ability was deliberately added by Microsoft for law enforcement agencies around the world after they purchased Skype in 2011. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security Although I think Microsoft implemented end-to-end encryption for skype for single conversations at a time in 2018. Still, for seven years, microsoft was giving law enforcement every conversation they wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago It was about the time they pushed the inclusion of banner ads in the application. Nobody left skype until advertisements were plastered all over it, even some with sound. Most of my gaming friends were early haters, as we'd been using Xfire and it served our primary purpose just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago And FOMO. FOMO is super powerful. FOMO kept me on Reddit for way too long. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) What momentum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago like it or not goverment official accounts, and official news accounts are things some people care about and there are few platforms that have as many as Twitter or Facebook /meta. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago like it or not goverment official accounts, and official news accounts are things some people care about and there are few platforms that have as many as Twitter or Facebook /meta. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) Good write up, except Skype is a bad example, because it’s better than any alternative, at least when it comes to screen sharing, audio quality, and file sharing. (Although I’d love to be wrong about this.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] kipo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) United States law enforcement agencies have the ability to eavesdrop on Skype conversations and to have access to Skype users' geographic locations. In many cases, a simple request for information is sufficient, with no court approval needed. This ability was deliberately added by Microsoft for law enforcement agencies around the world after they purchased Skype in 2011. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security Although I think Microsoft implemented end-to-end encryption for skype for single conversations at a time in 2018. Still, for seven years, microsoft was giving law enforcement every conversation they wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago It was about the time they pushed the inclusion of banner ads in the application. Nobody left skype until advertisements were plastered all over it, even some with sound. Most of my gaming friends were early haters, as we'd been using Xfire and it served our primary purpose just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kipo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago* (1 child) United States law enforcement agencies have the ability to eavesdrop on Skype conversations and to have access to Skype users' geographic locations. In many cases, a simple request for information is sufficient, with no court approval needed. This ability was deliberately added by Microsoft for law enforcement agencies around the world after they purchased Skype in 2011. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security Although I think Microsoft implemented end-to-end encryption for skype for single conversations at a time in 2018. Still, for seven years, microsoft was giving law enforcement every conversation they wanted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago That’s fascinating and quite shitty. Unfortunately there’s no other communication service with comparable performance when it comes to screen and file sharing, which is what I care about. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago It was about the time they pushed the inclusion of banner ads in the application. Nobody left skype until advertisements were plastered all over it, even some with sound. Most of my gaming friends were early haters, as we'd been using Xfire and it served our primary purpose just fine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lobut@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago Politics, sports, musicians, celebrities, news ... Those are slow to move off if they are at all. It's a shame. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) mostly porn permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Manalith@midwest.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be everyone living in the states that block Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] adoxographer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s not the states blocking ph, but ph blocking the states. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Manalith@midwest.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Must be everyone living in the states that block Pornhub. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] adoxographer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s not the states blocking ph, but ph blocking the states. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] adoxographer@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago It’s not the states blocking ph, but ph blocking the states. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] index@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Many answered you already but i'm gonna provide you with another piece of the puzzle. Why the fuck there always multiple threads about elon musk on lemmy frontpage? Propaganda and marketing runs deep. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I set up a filter to block any post title with "Elon Musk" but stuff like this will still get through though. Lemmy is obsessed with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Master@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Elon musk butt stuff... you are missing out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago This better not awaken anything in me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) I set up a filter to block any post title with "Elon Musk" but stuff like this will still get through though. Lemmy is obsessed with him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Master@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Elon musk butt stuff... you are missing out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago This better not awaken anything in me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Master@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Elon musk butt stuff... you are missing out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago This better not awaken anything in me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago This better not awaken anything in me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scallops@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 years ago The thing about a cult is that it doesn’t need you in particular. It needs people. Ideally, idiots. So it doesn’t matter that a lot of people are leaving/will leave Twitter. The idiots will remain, and the platform will serve its purpose. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) few other platforms have ad much diversity in their hatred and negativity, community notes are funny, watching things slowly get worse is also interesting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That misspelling kinda fits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] M137@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago That misspelling kinda fits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world -3 points 2 years ago Because I'm not interested in trading one echo chamber for another. Also, sports and music. permalink fedilink source parent