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When somebody asks why you're a vegan (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/vegan@lemmy.ml
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[+] -9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

I'm completely on your side, but I disagree that declining veganism condemns hundreds of animals to die. If someone goes vegan, does that mean that those animals will then live?

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Those animals wouldn't be born. It's supply and demand. The less demand there is for meat, the cheaper it gets, and the less incentive there will be to breed more of them. The goal is to reduce suffering as much as possible, and that can only happen if people stop paying for it.

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  • [+] -12 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I get the theoretical point, but I highly doubt that if one person goes vegan, it will cause the meat industry to produce 100 less cows. It will just create slightly more waste.

    Don't get me wrong, more people absolutely should go vegan, I just never liked the view of "you single person can change something", because that's just false. It should be marketed more as being part of a bigger group that can create change.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Do you also not vote, because one single vote doesn't change the outcome?

    And that's besides the point anyways. Me not murdering humans also doesn't stop them from getting murdered worldwide, but that doesn't mean I can just walk around and kill people, the same way you have no justification to torture and murder non-human animals, just because they will keep getting killed by others.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago

    Well, you did not get my point at all... Please read it again. Even with voting, saying "I changed the election with my vote" is bullshit. But voting and veganism are important, precisely because it is a group. But targeting individuals is just useless. Because your relative won't change the world. Many relatives may, but the point is that one single person won't change shit with a behavioral change.

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