So first I want to apologize. The other vegan that was replying was being stupid and that has nothing to do with you.

Second of all: I agree that animal farming can be more humane. I know you disagree that there is any level of ethics to animal slaughtering, that's not the point. Here's the true and final difficulty that means most people will never be vegan which is that meat is super hard to avoid while simultaneously being an easy and satisfying source of calories. To cut off that meat goes against our survival instinct in the biggest way possible. People can't even punch themselves in the face very well because our body physically stops us from doing so, much less convincing us to give up the vast vast majority of our food supply and telling us instead to eat... what? Tofu? Rice and beans? You basically need to be a Michelin star chef to make something that doesn't come out like prison food for someone that needs fast, cheap, and filling food.

The morality of it will never matter, because survival is always > morality. Hungry dogs are never loyal, and people's lives, the stress, the time we have, in a society where meat and products that contain meat are the most readily available food supply will always trump that morality.

Which brings us to the main post. People know that we're eating animals. We know animals have to die for us to eat meat. And most of us who are not super sheltered, know what killing an animal looks like and means.

Vegans telling us that "they saw the videos we refuse to watch" not only doesn't address the core issue, it is condescending in the most ignorant and stupid way possible.

Truely you want to convert people? Prepare the best damn vegan meals you can and make them easily available. Make eating vegan as easy and as cheap as going to McDonald's. Vegan food can't be more expensive than meat; you've already lost if you can't do that. You're fighting survival instinct, so you have to put in similar amounts of work. Fat and sugar are addicting, so abuse that.

As for me, I'm already eating more veggies than I used to. But unfortunately where I live I can get a metric shit ton of meat for $20. That would actively be irresponsible of me to not take that deal.

As a side note about hunting: It Sucks that there are no wolves to be a natural predator for deer, but deer must have a natural predator or they kill forests. There's just no vegan friendly solution to that problem.