daniskarma comments on Generated "art" does not rule.

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[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Yes, art has always been derivative. One artist inspires the other, borrows from the other, reacts on the ither. That's the way it works. The copyright laws we have now are pushing all life out of art in the name of making money.

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

I'm inclined to say that TechBros are usually not the ones whose work they give away for free*, and they really care more about profits than anything.

* there are a multitude of ways to provide information but making sure it's useless, for AI models that usually comes in a way of providing the source code but not training data or architecture, so that you'll need to do most of the work again. A lot of them don't do even that.

Please note, this comment is off topic to the OP post and is only about your idealistic view of TechBros

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago

Tech bro: I don't know you stranger. But here is the source code of my lifelong project, have fun and do whatever you want with it

Hello Spez ohh hi mark, does this guy talking about you?

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Tech bro: I'm taking all of your creative work without permission, all your personality, uniqueness, everything that makes you worth anything as an artist. I will make billions and give you absolutely nothing in return.

Artists: here are my artworks for you to enjoy for free. You can listen / look / share / whatever. But I'd love to make more of this instead of being a cashier, can I get $5? Or $0.00000000001 per view/play?

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

Skill issue.

Anyway. What's wrong with being a cashier, someone need to do jobs. Let's pay those jobs good. And then everyone can do art in their spare time and share for free without worries.

It's what I do anyway. I have a job for what I get paid enough to live, and then I make videogames just for the love of it and share them without worries.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Yeah, classic techbro dickhead reaponse.

I didn't say it was wrong to be a cashier.

Get tagged and gfy.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

Please be respectful to other users.

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You didn't earn any, I'm alright.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child)

I didn't insult you. You insulted me.

You are bigoted against tech oriented people.

I suggested that anyone could do and enjoy art if regular jobs were paid better.

That's the summarize of our exchange.

Moral judgements over that exchange makes really clear here who is on the right, and who should sit and reconsider their ethics. I just hope that you are not so deep into echo chambers around people that just constantly validate that behavior that an ethical self introspection it's impossible for you.

Have a good day!

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[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Just because you didn't use a naughty word, doesn't make you correct.

You clearly have no respect for the creative, as shown by your 'skill issue' and 'get a real job' comments.

If you think you're on a moral high ground because you're pretending to engage in a grownup converstion, then, once again, gfy.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I do art myself. As I said I make videogames, which are considered art. And, by the way, my games are shitty, I do also have skill issue on that. And the fact that I like generative LLMs is because I have a big skill issue painting.

But that does not takes away the idea that not everyone can or should make money for all forms of art. And the believe that art is something that should probably not always be part of the money machine.

It's true that I value jobs that cover the firsts stages of the Maxwell hierarchy of need better than the jobs which cover higher stages (or the jobs that do not cover any stage or are detrimental for that matter)

I do stand for that position of that everyone should do the "jobs that no one wants to do" and the things that people enjoy doing should maybe be left out of the job market. And just be made and shared for the love of it.

I am strongly against the monetization of everything. I think is bad for personal mental health, and bad for society's health.