▲ 205 ▼ Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them? (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by jacaw@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works 1218 comments fedilink hide all child comments If so, was it polled somewhere?
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What ethnic cleansing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) There were pogroms and mass murders at the ground level and there were laws targeting Russian speakers from the governmental level. The weapons Trump was impeached for tying political favors to were being used against resistance militias. They were being used to bomb facilities built in the soviet era that pump hot water into people's homes as the local method of heating during the winter. They locked over a hundred people in a building and burned them alive in it. They broke multiple treaties with Russia in order to do all of this. This was the lead up to the war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thank you for your source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago Use google you lazy motherfucker permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Everyone has seen how you respond to being given sources, why would they bother? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) What ethnic cleansing? Whoop, there it is! I'm quoting that for posterity before you delete this comment. You're literally denying an attempted genocide right now, y'know that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What attempted genocide? You didn't answer my question. I love the fascist playbook of "don't play defense" in action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm not the person who you responded to. I'm talking about the targeting of ethnically Russian Ukrainians in the eastern part of Ukraine (the Donbas region.) There has been attacks against these people going on since 2014. Thousands upon thousands have died and more have been wounded in this low-grade civil war that became the prelude to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Here's a western article filtered through western intelligence describing the situation with some glaring oversights, namely that there has been ultranationalist paramilitary forces operating in the Donbas (Azov, Right Sector, C14, National Militia, OUN et al.) with tacit approval from the Ukrainian government since 2014 and that civilian targets have been routinely been used by the military and the paramilitary groups. Here's a short article written by a former USAID officer (!) published by The Atlantic Council (!!) that describes the problem with far-right militias in Ukraine, just so there's no accusations of bias from me in this discussion. They've literally been targeting civilians who are of the "wrong" ethnicity for nearly a decade now. If that doesn't count as an attempted genocide, I don't know what would. Also that's some cheap framing of the discussion btw. Fascism isn't "don't play defence". I take it that you have gotten your picture of fascism from a particular, well-known YouTube series. If so, that series is critically flawed and it does a bad job of defining fascism and how it functions. But that's a different discussion altogether. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kev-F384@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I think you will find Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian citizens with the promise of homes and land long before this war, the people you call Russian Ukrainians are just Russians nothing more nothing less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) There were pogroms and mass murders at the ground level and there were laws targeting Russian speakers from the governmental level. The weapons Trump was impeached for tying political favors to were being used against resistance militias. They were being used to bomb facilities built in the soviet era that pump hot water into people's homes as the local method of heating during the winter. They locked over a hundred people in a building and burned them alive in it. They broke multiple treaties with Russia in order to do all of this. This was the lead up to the war. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thank you for your source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago Use google you lazy motherfucker permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Everyone has seen how you respond to being given sources, why would they bother? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Thank you for your source permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago Use google you lazy motherfucker permalink fedilink source parent [–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Everyone has seen how you respond to being given sources, why would they bother? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago Use google you lazy motherfucker permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago Everyone has seen how you respond to being given sources, why would they bother? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 child) What ethnic cleansing? Whoop, there it is! I'm quoting that for posterity before you delete this comment. You're literally denying an attempted genocide right now, y'know that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What attempted genocide? You didn't answer my question. I love the fascist playbook of "don't play defense" in action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm not the person who you responded to. I'm talking about the targeting of ethnically Russian Ukrainians in the eastern part of Ukraine (the Donbas region.) There has been attacks against these people going on since 2014. Thousands upon thousands have died and more have been wounded in this low-grade civil war that became the prelude to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Here's a western article filtered through western intelligence describing the situation with some glaring oversights, namely that there has been ultranationalist paramilitary forces operating in the Donbas (Azov, Right Sector, C14, National Militia, OUN et al.) with tacit approval from the Ukrainian government since 2014 and that civilian targets have been routinely been used by the military and the paramilitary groups. Here's a short article written by a former USAID officer (!) published by The Atlantic Council (!!) that describes the problem with far-right militias in Ukraine, just so there's no accusations of bias from me in this discussion. They've literally been targeting civilians who are of the "wrong" ethnicity for nearly a decade now. If that doesn't count as an attempted genocide, I don't know what would. Also that's some cheap framing of the discussion btw. Fascism isn't "don't play defence". I take it that you have gotten your picture of fascism from a particular, well-known YouTube series. If so, that series is critically flawed and it does a bad job of defining fascism and how it functions. But that's a different discussion altogether. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kev-F384@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I think you will find Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian citizens with the promise of homes and land long before this war, the people you call Russian Ukrainians are just Russians nothing more nothing less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) What attempted genocide? You didn't answer my question. I love the fascist playbook of "don't play defense" in action. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm not the person who you responded to. I'm talking about the targeting of ethnically Russian Ukrainians in the eastern part of Ukraine (the Donbas region.) There has been attacks against these people going on since 2014. Thousands upon thousands have died and more have been wounded in this low-grade civil war that became the prelude to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Here's a western article filtered through western intelligence describing the situation with some glaring oversights, namely that there has been ultranationalist paramilitary forces operating in the Donbas (Azov, Right Sector, C14, National Militia, OUN et al.) with tacit approval from the Ukrainian government since 2014 and that civilian targets have been routinely been used by the military and the paramilitary groups. Here's a short article written by a former USAID officer (!) published by The Atlantic Council (!!) that describes the problem with far-right militias in Ukraine, just so there's no accusations of bias from me in this discussion. They've literally been targeting civilians who are of the "wrong" ethnicity for nearly a decade now. If that doesn't count as an attempted genocide, I don't know what would. Also that's some cheap framing of the discussion btw. Fascism isn't "don't play defence". I take it that you have gotten your picture of fascism from a particular, well-known YouTube series. If so, that series is critically flawed and it does a bad job of defining fascism and how it functions. But that's a different discussion altogether. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kev-F384@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I think you will find Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian citizens with the promise of homes and land long before this war, the people you call Russian Ukrainians are just Russians nothing more nothing less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I'm not the person who you responded to. I'm talking about the targeting of ethnically Russian Ukrainians in the eastern part of Ukraine (the Donbas region.) There has been attacks against these people going on since 2014. Thousands upon thousands have died and more have been wounded in this low-grade civil war that became the prelude to the war between Russia and Ukraine. Here's a western article filtered through western intelligence describing the situation with some glaring oversights, namely that there has been ultranationalist paramilitary forces operating in the Donbas (Azov, Right Sector, C14, National Militia, OUN et al.) with tacit approval from the Ukrainian government since 2014 and that civilian targets have been routinely been used by the military and the paramilitary groups. Here's a short article written by a former USAID officer (!) published by The Atlantic Council (!!) that describes the problem with far-right militias in Ukraine, just so there's no accusations of bias from me in this discussion. They've literally been targeting civilians who are of the "wrong" ethnicity for nearly a decade now. If that doesn't count as an attempted genocide, I don't know what would. Also that's some cheap framing of the discussion btw. Fascism isn't "don't play defence". I take it that you have gotten your picture of fascism from a particular, well-known YouTube series. If so, that series is critically flawed and it does a bad job of defining fascism and how it functions. But that's a different discussion altogether. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kev-F384@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I think you will find Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian citizens with the promise of homes and land long before this war, the people you call Russian Ukrainians are just Russians nothing more nothing less. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kev-F384@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I think you will find Putin flooded the Donbas with Russian citizens with the promise of homes and land long before this war, the people you call Russian Ukrainians are just Russians nothing more nothing less. permalink fedilink source parent