▲ 205 ▼ Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them? (sh.itjust.works) submitted 2 years ago by jacaw@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works 1218 comments fedilink hide all child comments If so, was it polled somewhere?
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) Russia is not going to call for peace. So that was a fucking lie [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You act like peace deals are the same thing as calls for peace. They can still have peace deals to appear they want peace when they started the war in the first place back in 2014 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) You act as if a peace deal isn't literally someone calling for peace. Lmao what with the "infiltrators" that cannot be proven? The two oblasts have a large population that is ethnically russian. When a government that had spoken of cleansing russian influence comes into power, it is pretty understandable that that would foment separatism. At best we can prove Russia provided financial aid to separatists, and then later stepped in and negotiate Minsk I and II, which were both broken by Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did these ethnically Russian people want to be apart of Russia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) You act like peace deals are the same thing as calls for peace. They can still have peace deals to appear they want peace when they started the war in the first place back in 2014 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) You act as if a peace deal isn't literally someone calling for peace. Lmao what with the "infiltrators" that cannot be proven? The two oblasts have a large population that is ethnically russian. When a government that had spoken of cleansing russian influence comes into power, it is pretty understandable that that would foment separatism. At best we can prove Russia provided financial aid to separatists, and then later stepped in and negotiate Minsk I and II, which were both broken by Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did these ethnically Russian people want to be apart of Russia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) You act as if a peace deal isn't literally someone calling for peace. Lmao what with the "infiltrators" that cannot be proven? The two oblasts have a large population that is ethnically russian. When a government that had spoken of cleansing russian influence comes into power, it is pretty understandable that that would foment separatism. At best we can prove Russia provided financial aid to separatists, and then later stepped in and negotiate Minsk I and II, which were both broken by Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did these ethnically Russian people want to be apart of Russia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Did these ethnically Russian people want to be apart of Russia? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) They at least fought enough for autonomy that Ukraine saw fit to bomb them. Wether they wanted to be Russian is debatable permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) Some Russians who maybe maybe not that lived in the area fought against Ukraine which means they wanted autonomy therefore it's ok for Russia to annex and invade Ukraine permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Quick question: did you know about any of this before today? Did you know about the Maidan Coup? Did you know about the nearly 15,000 casualties, including over 3000 civilian casualties, in Luhansk/Donbas between 2014 and 2022? Were you aware of the extensive reporting by western sources on far right elements in Ukraine committing crimes against humanity? If any of that was news to you, do you think it's ever appropriate to pause and reassess your position? Or are you just going to double, triple, and quadruple down on your fairy-tale understanding of the world with smug quips that don't address anything of substance? permalink fedilink source parent
