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Suddenly seeing more hexbear posts. Did we re-federate with them? (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by to c/main@sh.itjust.works
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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

To be fair, colonialism is a human trait and it's been proven in every large society time and time again. You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it's the same thing with a different spin.

It is inevitable, humans are destined for this. It's unfortunate but it's what we do.

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  • [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's just the propaganda you've been fed. The world doesn't need to be xenophobic or exploitative. These are learnt behaviors.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    No man these are facts. Proven, hard irrefutable facts.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Lmao no they're not. Humans are a communal species, it's literally what we've evolved to be.

    However acting as if behavioral (or even worse evolutionary) psychology can in any way give a definite answer on what is human nature and what is learnt behaviour, is ridiculous.
    There are no factual answers to the question "what is human nature?"

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you look at human history, every civilization has eventually pretty much done the same thing just at different scales.

    At some point humans do in general attain that trait, in larger societies.

    Keep the group small, it'll eventually grow larger. It literally all happened throughout human history, there are physical artifacts across the globe, all before globalization and communication technologies, and they all generally did the same thing. Or they were one of your "communal" societies that no longer exist because..

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Lmao post your academic sources instead of vague gesturing towards human History

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm being vague because these are common facts. I'm not about to go spend half my Saturday sourcing this for you, to win some kind of online argument lol its nice and sunny outside and I'm planting trees all day and imbibing with you kids on here on my breaks.

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  • [+] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah because my time is valuable lol should I need to find a source that proves the sky is blue? Seriously none of this is new or contested, aside from you and your group on here. Y'all need to get educated on history, it's actually really interesting and fun to read up on in your spare time.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just because you're a terrible person doesn't mean everyone else is.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I have no idea what you're trying to say here

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Like a Christian deep in the closet talking about how gay people just need to suppress the natural urge all men feel to engage in gay sex, you believe that your internal experiences are universally shared across humanity. Because you are a selfish, deeply evil person, you refuse to believe that there is actually any such thing as a good person at all. You feel smugly superior to the rest of us who refuse to admit we're all evil, without realizing that not everyone thinks like you.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Well I didn't say anything close to what you opened up with. I think you're angry and projecting.

    I am none of what you say I am, you simply assume I am because I say things that go against your narrative.

    I may seem smug to you because I can easily reject your claims and don't feel the need to prove myself to you. But I'm not, you just seem lost and honestly a little delusional.

    I hope you find what you're looking for in life.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    yeah but the thing is other countries' policies didn't inspire apartied and the nazis and their holocaust.

    the US's exterminationist and segregationalist The US did those thing

    Hitler wrote in his diary how good america was at genociding its undesireables, and took it and ran with it

    The United States: world leader in being the absolute fucking worst thing in human history since 1619

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But that's kind of my point. The CCP engages in almost identical policies and political strategy. It's just under a different banner with a different mascot.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Absolutely fucking wild to go yeah the US Inspired the nazis and aparteid and segregation, but china has the belt and road so its basically the same

    The fuck?!

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If somebody looks at you and likes a thing you do, and then goes and commits genocide because they liked that you liked their favorite potato chip, does not make you connected to their genocide.

    You are fabricating connections while denying reality.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Hitler literally wrote in his diary how good the US policies of extermination and land settling were, and, quite famously, his basis for Lebensraum: the material basis for the holocaust

    Get the fuck out of here nazi apologist

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    You think the current US/UK empire is bad but if you look in your own back yard it's the same thing with a different spin.

    I don't think any non-Western country has enslaved a continent, refused to pay reparations for enslaving an entire continent, and continue to plunder an entire continent of its resources.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Japan, China, Persian empire, Egypt, Spain, US, UK, Cambodia, et al.

    History is nasty, our goal should be to learn from it and not repeat it.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago

    I'm going to make the bold claim that the Tang dynasty and the Achaemenid empire was nowhere near as bad as the Spanish empire or the British empire and unlike the first two, the second two are still relevant in modern times.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Do you seriously think Cambodia "enslaved a continent"? Like, I think Pol Pot was one of the more destructive leaders in human history, but you're being silly.

    Japan was working on it but only partially did it. China didn't. Persia? uh . . . I don't think so. Egypt? No. Spain was part of the overall effort that the US and UK were part of.

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