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Is Not Taking Any Shit From An Employer A Bad Thing? (lemdit.com)
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I understand that not everyone is fortunate to have money saved to be able to have the leeway to leave jobs whenever they feel like it and so forth. But I just feel like people have lost their sense of self-respect when it comes down to employment.

I am a firm believer that if you are working at a toxic place and are being harassed or bullied, to stand up to that behavior and tell them that you're not going to take their shit, and if they continue you fucking quit and never look back.

I have known people who have not had a savings who have done this in the past and they end up finding a decent job that doesn't treat them like shit. Do you feel like job Seekers don't defend themselves anymore?

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[–] 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not as bad as it was pre-covid, but yes, this is still definitely a fucking thing...

I appear to be immune to it, I'm retired military and went looking for work more as something to do than something to pay bills, and literally nobody gives me shit about anything, I have a very obvious no-fucks dispositon. I see how they treat coworkers though and seriously wonder how the fuck the state of what people believe individual liberty should be has gotten this fucked.

I literally watched someone hand over their cell phone to a manager so they could go through their Facebook messages a couple days ago... That manager has never even asked for my phone number, and I'm 100% certain she wouldn't ask for my phone. She just pushes certain people because she knows she can.

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  • [+] [S] -22 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You definitely get it. You know EXACTLY what I'm talking about. This behavior is prevalent, and I feel like ppl cower and don't stand up for themselves bc of losing their job.

    In my opinion, it doesn't matter. You need to show them that you mean business and don't care who they are that you're not gunna take their bullshit.

    You're not a fucking slave, and people who work for you need to be treated with respect.

    The moment you show them its 'ok' to walk all over you. It's done. You let them know you'll tolerate being treated like shit and they are just going to push you around.

    You've proven you're not valuable at that point your disposable.

    I'm certain when they were interviewing you and you told them about your military experience, their assholes receded into their bowels.

    At that moment they knew that if they hire you, they have to leave you alone and let you do your job. Because idk? You're a fucking adult?

    It's crazy man

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People probably don't want to lose their job because they can't afford to. You acknowledged it yourself in your OP, most people don't have the money to just leave a job. I could probably afford to be out of work for a little while, but I've been applying for jobs for ages with no luck... So I'm not exactly confident even my reasonable nest egg would last me until I found something.

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  • [+] [S] -27 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know and that's the Vicious Cycle of it. Even as soon as you get yourself to that confidence that you know you have value on the job market and you can stand up for yourself with toxic shitty employers, leaving that job or getting fired or laid off means you have to go through the whole job interviewing process again. And that shit is degrading in itself and it starts to eat away at that confidence that you gained

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  • [–] 0 points 2 years ago

    It's not always about confidence. It's about money. Many people live paycheck to paycheck and cannot afford to just randomly quit their job without having another lined up. It's a bit odd that you keep coming back to things like confidence when it really has nothing to do with it.

    I'm lucky that I don't live paycheck to paycheck. I can take time between jobs to find a new one if I'd like. But many people do not have that luxury and cannot just quit their job...

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    It's one of those prisoner dilemma things.

    If everyone refused to put up with shit like a manager looking through your phone, it wouldn't happen. The employer wouldn't have any employees and they'd be done.

    But enough people make the optimal-for-themselves choice of putting up with it in exchange for food and money. You can't really blame them. Do you trust your coworkers?

    We should have stronger worker protections and unions, but it's a long path from here to there.

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