If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] 36 points 2 years ago (1 child)

We're literally just communists. Read any introductory text to communism and 99% of what we say will make sense in context.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    "Donald Trump is a liberal"

    Break this down.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'll oversimplify a bit, but here you go. In economic terms, liberalism is a market oriented economy, and the current iteration of neoliberalism is marked by social welfare cuts and tax cuts for the rich with "trickle down" effect in mind (allegedly). That ideology is shared by both the democratic and republican parties. The difference between communists and liberals in the sense the word is most often used, is that economic approach, and from that perspective both liberals and conservatives are "liberal".

    Now the common use of the word is a bit different, but that's almost exclusively US from what I can tell. Hexbear is also international though, and liberal is a common term for right wingers where I'm from for example.

    Hope I could help.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    "The colloquialisms from the place I am directly talking about don't matter as much as this one I am using, everyone who disagrees is propagandized"

    This is what I'm seeing when I read your comment. I can call the sky green all damn day, that doesn't make it green, you dip.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Wow what an insightful response to a user answering your question in good faith! I cannot imagine why you would ever be treated with derision or condescention

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children)

    You reap what you sow. I figured a tankie would know about planting things but I suppose I was wrong again.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago

    Funny because the other user sowed a civil and good-faith response. I'm used to that resulting in a response in good faith as well, and yet here you are with shit in your diapers acting like a pissbaby. Must be something in the soil

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Exactly the same as a chud saying college biology is fake pseudoscience because of the biology they were taught in 5th grade.

    In any decent political science education in the states you will also see these definitions. You can stop having a tantrum about it.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Let me oversimplify even more. Donald Trump upholds the American Revolution which turned British America into a liberal republic.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    This isn't a colloquialism. This is a basic definition used within political science.

    If you're going to talk politics on a serious level then using the terminology of political science matters and, if that's too much of a stretch, then at least avoid colloquial terms which contradict the terms used in political science.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago

    Americans can call the sky green as much as they want. In the rest of the world, Liberalism = Liberalism, not "democrat".

    Liberals are people that believe in liberalism, which can be summed up as "everyone has the individual right to be an asshole, even if it fucks everyone else over".

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Locke was a classical liberal. Trump is a neoliberal. This is very simple.

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    Socialism is when the government does stuff and the more the government does, the socialister it is, and if the government does a whole lot if stuff, it's communism!

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Liberalism has a couple of different definitions. The one you're thinking of is the one in US politics where "Liberal" is synonymous with "Left'. This isn't how it's being used here though.

    Liberalism, as a broad ideological trend that came out of the enlightenment, contains within it, Conservatism. Conservatism was theorized by people like Edmund Burke who, seeing that the previous feudal hierarchy was dying off, sought to preserve it, at least as much as was possible, by accepting Liberal notions of property rights and capitalism.

    So, instead of a social hierarchy being ordained by God, it's decided by the market, and social conflict is meditated through the liberal, Lockean, Republic.

    So when we call Trump a liberal, we mean it in this broad sense. He's still a conservative, but conservatism is a subset of capital L Liberalism.

    This is in contrast to Leftism, which also contains a lot of things within it, but breaks from a lot of the philosophical assumptions that undergird Liberalism.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Is there anything confusing about that statement?

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    Yes, otherwise they would not have asked it. We all learn something new everyday, and what's old for you is novel for others. We cannot expect everyone to be well-versed in theory that was once new to us as well

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