▲ 59 ▼ [DISCUSSION] Foundation S02E08 - The Last Empress (Spoilers) (lemmy.dbzer0.com) submitted 2 years ago by Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/sciencefiction@lemmy.world 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments Summary: Enjoiner Rue confides in Dusk about her distrust of Demerzel. Hober Mallow pulls a daring move. Day sets course for Terminus and the Foundation. This thread can contain TV spoilers up to season 2 episode 8. Air Date: September 1, 2023
[–] sugarfree@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (5 children) Is this show worth picking up? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] zombie_kong@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. I was afraid it would be a mid range sci fi but it’s turned out to be fantastic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I personally dropped it, since it suffers from committee-approved writing: there must be random action scenes, love interests and personal stories of exceptionalism. If you don't mind the plot sometimes taking second place in favor of illogical standard Hollywood fare, it's well shot, with okay acting, and an overall nice aesthetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) it suffers from committee-approved writing: there must be random action scenes, love interests and personal stories of exceptionalism You've just described literally every piece of genre television made since the beginning of the medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, I'd say that this one is fairly blatant about it. You can tick boxes without sacrificing plot coherence and world building. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Idunno, this one ticks those plot and worldbuilding boxes pretty hard for me. It's just a different sort of plot and the worldbuilding is necessarily shifting, both owing to the fact that the story spans a great deal of distance and time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agedbeef@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I agree with you somewhat, but I’ll just say in my opinion, it wasn’t as disruptive to my watching. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zefiax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Ya it's quite good overall. I would recommend. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago I'd say so. I have more faith in Apple keeping this show alive longer than Amazon or Netflix would have. I think we're up to 5 or so different plot lines occurring at any given time per episode, so chances are you'd be interested in at least something going on. permalink fedilink source parent [–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Wait. The beginning of the seasons are... so painful, truly unwatchable. There's smelling your own farts, and then there's whatever the hell this is, like GoT S8 kind of stuff. But then something crazy happens around ep 4-5 and they turn absolutely on a dime to become actually pretty interesting. 2x08 was the best of the show, kind of by far. It's still a bit in the hole, but it has 2 more episodes to redeem the season. Basically don't watch this show unless you're binging, it's cruel otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zombie_kong@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago Yes. I was afraid it would be a mid range sci fi but it’s turned out to be fantastic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children) I personally dropped it, since it suffers from committee-approved writing: there must be random action scenes, love interests and personal stories of exceptionalism. If you don't mind the plot sometimes taking second place in favor of illogical standard Hollywood fare, it's well shot, with okay acting, and an overall nice aesthetic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) it suffers from committee-approved writing: there must be random action scenes, love interests and personal stories of exceptionalism You've just described literally every piece of genre television made since the beginning of the medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, I'd say that this one is fairly blatant about it. You can tick boxes without sacrificing plot coherence and world building. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Idunno, this one ticks those plot and worldbuilding boxes pretty hard for me. It's just a different sort of plot and the worldbuilding is necessarily shifting, both owing to the fact that the story spans a great deal of distance and time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent [–] agedbeef@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I agree with you somewhat, but I’ll just say in my opinion, it wasn’t as disruptive to my watching. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) it suffers from committee-approved writing: there must be random action scenes, love interests and personal stories of exceptionalism You've just described literally every piece of genre television made since the beginning of the medium. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, I'd say that this one is fairly blatant about it. You can tick boxes without sacrificing plot coherence and world building. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Idunno, this one ticks those plot and worldbuilding boxes pretty hard for me. It's just a different sort of plot and the worldbuilding is necessarily shifting, both owing to the fact that the story spans a great deal of distance and time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Eh, I'd say that this one is fairly blatant about it. You can tick boxes without sacrificing plot coherence and world building. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Idunno, this one ticks those plot and worldbuilding boxes pretty hard for me. It's just a different sort of plot and the worldbuilding is necessarily shifting, both owing to the fact that the story spans a great deal of distance and time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Idunno, this one ticks those plot and worldbuilding boxes pretty hard for me. It's just a different sort of plot and the worldbuilding is necessarily shifting, both owing to the fact that the story spans a great deal of distance and time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Fair enough! Might give it a change again eventually. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agedbeef@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I agree with you somewhat, but I’ll just say in my opinion, it wasn’t as disruptive to my watching. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Ya it's quite good overall. I would recommend. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 3 points 2 years ago I'd say so. I have more faith in Apple keeping this show alive longer than Amazon or Netflix would have. I think we're up to 5 or so different plot lines occurring at any given time per episode, so chances are you'd be interested in at least something going on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago* Wait. The beginning of the seasons are... so painful, truly unwatchable. There's smelling your own farts, and then there's whatever the hell this is, like GoT S8 kind of stuff. But then something crazy happens around ep 4-5 and they turn absolutely on a dime to become actually pretty interesting. 2x08 was the best of the show, kind of by far. It's still a bit in the hole, but it has 2 more episodes to redeem the season. Basically don't watch this show unless you're binging, it's cruel otherwise. permalink fedilink source parent