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Van slams into crowd at Berlin Pride festival, killing 1 and injuring 16 (apnews.com)
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[–] 4 points 1 day ago (9 children)

So the middle east was just as violent as Europe? Ok Cool. The middle east isn't inherently more violent than other places. To say that is incredibly racist.

People are people. They need resources to build proper lives. Lacking that, they believe they have to fight. Western governments figured out last century that in order to win the global economic war, they need oil. So they need governments friendly to them in order to secure access to those resources. Acting like this is just an ancient conflict that has no answer is ignorant.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    So the middle east was just as violent as Europe? Ok Cool. The middle east isn't inherently more violent than other places. To say that is incredibly racist.

    Where did I say Europe hasn't been at war with itself for centuries? Get you're Whataboutism the fuck out of here. You suggested the middle east was at war and violent because of western powers. I provided facts that, that's bullshit....and now you're pulling some Whataboutism bullshit.

    People are people. They need resources to build proper lives. Lacking that, they believe they have to fight. Western governments figured out last century that in order to win the global economic war, they need oil. So they need governments friendly to them in order to secure access to those resources. Acting like this is just an ancient conflict that has no answer is ignorant.

    There are multiple states in the middle east that are using said oil to be more prosperous...so you're point is bullshit again.

    And please tell me how ramming a car into a pride parade is somehow fighting the good fight...

    You're being tolerant of the intolerant.

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  • [–] 1 point 23 hours ago (3 children)

    Where did I say Europe hasn't been at war with itself for centuries?

    Ok but you did say that the middle east has been at war with itself to dismiss my point that the middle east is affected by the Wests foreign policy agenda for them. And also you implied that the middle east is inherently more violent than other places.

    There are multiple states in the middle east that are using said oil to be more prosperous

    Yeah these are governments friendly to the West doing this and they are doing this at the cost of their local population. That money isn't being used to build community, it's being used to fund sheikhs agendas.

    And please tell me how ramming a car into a pride parade is somehow fighting the good fight...

    You're being tolerant of the intolerant.

    I never said that. Violence isn't good. I can say that unequivocally. I'm just saying is that religious extremism is created by the Wests foreign policy. Also the immigration crisis is caused by the Wests foreign policy. The root cause here is whatever motivates that foreign policy.

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  • [–] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Ok but you did say that the middle east has been at war with itself to dismiss my point that the middle east is affected by the Wests foreign policy agenda for them. And also you implied that the middle east is inherently more violent than other places.

    Because you are acting like the middle east and the terrorism that's born there via religious ideologies, is a western caused issue. It is not. Today, the middle east is more violent than other places.

    Yeah these are governments friendly to the West doing this and they are doing this at the cost of their local population. That money isn't being used to build community, it's being used to fund sheikhs agendas.

    There is the west being blamed...again. UAE exists and has a very high quality of life. You should check it out.

    I never said that. Violence isn't good. I can say that unequivocally. I'm just saying is that religious extremism is created by the Wests foreign policy. Also the immigration crisis is caused by the Wests foreign policy. The root cause here is whatever motivates that foreign policy.

    And I'm telling you, that's complete bullshit. You're once again, saying it's the fault of the west, that this happened.

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  • [–] 0 points 22 hours ago (1 child)

    Ok let's talk about some history

    Why does Israel exist in place of Palestine? Because of the British policy of Zionism.

    Why did the Islamic Revolution happen in Iran in 1979? It was a direct response to the coup orchestrated by the CIA in 1953.

    Why did the Taliban orchestrate 9/11 despite being allies with the US against the Soviet Union in the 1980s? Because the CIA instigated the war covertly, destroyed millions of lives and empowered religious extremist warlords to dominate Afghanistan for the next 40 years.

    To say the West isn't the root cause here is ignorant and lacks a historical perspective.

    And I'm telling you, that's complete bullshit. You're once again, saying it's the fault of the west, that this happened.

    Bro you're complete bullshit. I'm sorry your precious West has done so much evil across the world.

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  • [–] 1 point 21 hours ago

    Why does Israel exist in place of Palestine? Because of the British policy of Zionism.

    Yep...and did that cause this extremist to ram a van into a pride parade?

    Why did the Islamic Revolution happen in Iran in 1979? It was a direct response to the coup orchestrated by the CIA in 1953.

    The IR happened because the shah was a dictator, and Khomeini promised a more democratic country. It's why you saw a ton of Persians from the left (students) supporting him. The CIA did have a hand in the 53 coup, but acting like the gov. Iran has now is better is a fuckin joke.

    Why did the Taliban orchestrate 9/11 despite being allies with the US against the Soviet Union in the 1980s? Because the CIA instigated the war covertly, destroyed millions of lives and empowered religious extremist warlords to dominate Afghanistan for the next 40 years.

    Wait wait, you think that 9/11 happened because the CIA gave the Taliban weapons and money? You do realize that 9/11 wasn't really done by the Taliban right? The Saudis had the biggest hand in it, and bin laden ended up being the fall guy.

    To say the West isn't the root cause here is ignorant and lacks a historical perspective.

    Again to say the west is the root cause is ignoring all the other countries that the west has been fucking with. India...the literally just got their independence from the British less than 100 years ago. A country of 1.4 billion people, and they don't seem to be fucking ramming vans into pride parades... what's your excuse for them?

    Bro you're complete bullshit. I'm sorry your precious West has done so much evil across the world.

    O...o I'm dealing with a tankie...fuckin hell.

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